Hidden Magic in Disney World

Theoretical/Operational Hourly Ride Capacity at WDW

Link to the DISboards.

Updated 6/17/2017

Comments welcome.  Most attractions have a solid connection found in a wide variety of sources.  Some of these attractions I haven’t been able to begin to guess.

THRC – Theoretical Hourly Ride Capacity

OHRC – Operational Hourly Ride Capacity (during a peak time)

FP+ allocation – is a pure guess at 70% based on observations.

% attendance – shows what percent of a daily population could actually book a FP+.  So, with the Mine Train, only 24% of the people in a 60,000 population day could actually schedule a FP+ for this ride.

 Magic Kingdom  14 hour day THRC OHRC Daily Capacity  FP+  allocation % attendance
14 0.7 60000
Big Thunder N.R. 1500 1350 18900 13230 0.2205
Space Mountain 2000 1800 25200 17640 0.294
Splash Mountain 1200 1080 15120 10584 0.1764
Peter Pan’s Flight 800 720 10080 7056 0.1176
Buzz Lightyear Ranger Spin 800 720 10080 7056 0.1176
Haunted Mansion 3200 2880 40320 28224 0.4704
Jungle Cruise 1800 1620 22680 15876 0.2646
Pirates of Caribbean 3200 2880 40320 28224 0.4704
Barnstormer 350 315 4410 3087 0.05145
Winnie the Pooh 850 765 10710 7497 0.12495
Tomorrowland Speedway 500 450 6300 4410 0.0735
Under the Sea 2200 1980 27720 19404 0.3234
Dumbo  the Flying Elepahnt 1000 900 12600 8820 0.147
It’s a Small World 3000 2700 37800 26460 0.441
Mad Tea Party 850 765 10710 7497 0.12495
Mickey’s Philharmagic 1500 1350 18900 13230 0.2205
Magic Carpets of Aladdin 550 495 6930 4851 0.08085
7 Dwarf Mine Train 1650 1485 20790 14553 0.2425
Meet Ariel at Her Grotto 0 0 0 0
Meet Cinderella 0 0 0 0
Meet Rapunzel 0 0 0 0
Celebrate a Dream Come Parade 0 0 0 0
Meet Mickey Town Square 0 0 0 0
Monsters Inc 1000 900 12600 8820 0.147
Wishes 0 0 0 0
Enchanted Tales w Belle 300 270 3780 2646 0.0441
Magic Kingdom Totals: 249165 4.1
Epcot    12 hour day THRC OHRC Daily Capacity  FP+ allocation % attendance
12 0.7 37800
Soarin (3 theaters) 2088 1879 22550 15785 0.41
Test Track 1200 1080 12960 9072 0.24
Frozen Ever After 1000 900 10800 7560 0.2
Mission: Space 1600 1440 17280 12096 0.32
Spaceship Earth 2400 2160 25920 18144 0.48
Journey into Imagination 2200 1980 23760 16632 0.44
The Seas with Nemo 2200 1980 23760 16632 0.44
Living with the Land 1600 1440 17280 12096 0.32
Meet Disney Pals at Epcot 0 0 0 0
Captain EO 0 0 0 0
Turtle Talk with Crush 0 0 0 0
Illuminations 0 0 0 0
Epcot Totals: 108017 2.85
Hollywood Studios   13 Hour Day THRC OHRC Daily Capacity FP+ allocation % attendance
13 0.7 35000
RocknRoller Coaster 1800 1620 21060 14742 0.4212
Tower of Terror 2000 1800 23400 16380 0.468
Toy Story Midway Mania (+3rd track) 2400 2160 25920 18,144 0.518
Star Tours 1800 1620 21060 14742 0.4212
The Great Movie Ride 2400 2160 28080 19656 0.5616
Disney Junior 1500 1050 0.03
Fantasmic 10000 7000 0.2
Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular 10000 7000 0.2
Muppet 3D  1692  900 11700 8190 .39
Beauty & Beast Stage  7500  5250  0.15
 112164  3.20
 DHS Totals  112728  3.2
Animal Kingdom   10 Hour Day THRC OHRC Daily Capacity FP+ allocation Attendance
12 0.7 35000
Expedition Everest 1800 1620 19440 13608 0.388
Kali River Rapids 1800 1620 19440 13608 0.388
Kilimanjaro Safaris 1400 1260 15120 10584 0.302
Dinosaur 2400 2160 25920 18144 0.527
Primeaval Whirl 1000 900 10800 7560 0.216
It’s Tough to Be a Bug 2000 1800 21600 15120 0.432
Avatar: Flight of Passage (projected)  1600  1440  17280 12096 0.345
Na’vi River Journey 1200 1080 12960 9072 0.259
Festival of Lion King 1375 8250 5775 0.165
Meet and Greet 200 2000 1400 0.043
Finding Nemo  1500  6000  4200  0.12
Animal Kingdom Totals 111,167 3.18

Strange Practices by Management at Disney Dining Locations

I have noticed a trend at empty restaurants in Walt Disney World.  They are increasingly willing to turn people away who do not have reservations.  After they enforced a credit card guarantee that only allows cancelling 24 hours in advance or you incur a $10.00 fee per person if you decide not to go to the restaurant, I stopped making reservations and rely on walking up.  This guarantee practice may be necessary for character meals or the popular venues in busy times, it is not good business for empty locations.  I don’t understand why they frown upon walk-ups in a resort? Here are two examples from our most recent trip.


We were sitting in Old Key West waiting for our room at 9:30 am and Olivia’s was nearly empty.  So, I jumped up and walked inside to the host, and asked if we could have a table on the patio to enjoy some breakfast and bloody marys.  She asked if we had a reservation, (which we didn’t) then said “it will be at least a half hour.”  I discussed this with her, and asked her to give me a reason for this.  She had no answer other than it would be a half hour.  If I went on the app to make a reservation, I could get one in a half hour.  Strange.  My parting comment to the host, “So you are turning away four bloody marys and breakfast in an empty restaurant?”  And she said, “I can take care of you in a half hour or you can go to the bar when it opens at 11:00.”  The next morning I talked to the manager of the restaurant and explained our conversation, and he said he had no idea why she behaved that way, they do not have a policy for this.  Except it happened to me in 2017 also. Twice!  So there is some kind of training taking place.

As you can see in the photos above we walked up to Spice Road Table at 11:30 am and asked to sit on the terrace to enjoy a few small plates and cocktails.  Of course they asked if we had a reservation, (we did not of course) then suggested that we stand at the full service bar.  What the hell?  There was one couple inside and the terrace was completely empty (as it usually is).  I suggested that they let us sit on the terrace, and they acquiesced.  But why the antagonism?

Not quite the same situation, but at the new Geyser Point bar and restaurant at Wilderness lodge we walked up to vacant restaurant at about 2:00 pm.  We grabbed some comfortable chairs and starting looking for cocktails.  The host immediately came over and chastised us for skipping the hostess stand.  It’s an open air building with lots of entrances.  We didn’t notice the small “see host stand for seating” sign.  No problem, I just don’t understand the aggressiveness at nearly empty restaurants.

We do not have this problem at lounges like the Brown Derby Lounge and Tutto Gusto.  They love to see us walk up and stay awhile.  The Duck Sliders and Blood Orange Cocktails are delicious.  At Tutto Gusto we drink $14.00 Moretti’s and have overpriced cheese plates.  But they want our business, so we oblige.

And one place you do need a reservation is California Grill during fireworks.  You can have mine, because I am wore out by the experience.  Once again the hosts seem crabby. I can understand having to turn away so many people all the time from the fireworks, but it shouldn’t be transferred to those that have booked reservations.

Disney Dining is a tricky business, they seem to be making unnecessarily difficult to get a table.

Here are the places that I have found to be welcoming of walkups: Narcoossee’s, Tokyo Dining, Marrakesh, Nine Dragons, Skipper Canteen (sometimes), Tiffins, Yak n Yeti, Sanaa, The Wave (extremely welcoming), ESPN, Swan and Dolphin locations.

Those that I have found to be obstructionists during even slow times ranked from most infuriating to moderately rude: La Hacienda, Kona, Olivia’s, Grand Floridian Cafe, Tony’s, Jiko, and Spice Road Table.

The Magic is Subtle Sometimes

A quick five day trip netted these photos.  My favorite 12 out of 379 photos taken.


Fireworks from Gaston’s


Bay Lake Tower


Everest in the Distance at Animal Kingdom


First Order on the Move at Hollywood Studios


Narcoossee’s Designer Water


Pandora at Night


Classic Disney


Capturing a Rainbow


Maharajah Jungle Trek




Light Lunch Epcot

Matching the Disney Bubble – Dining

Charleston South Carolina has an amazing dining scene that is easily accessible, provides artful settings, and delicious food. These are a few of my experiences from my last visit.  I find it better than being at Disney World and I like WDW.

The Edison – Steampunk

We ended our five day WDW excursion with a visit to the Edison in Disney Springs. During lunch the place was wide open.  It was a great place to escape the heat and wander through the enormous place.  The Steampunk decor gave us plenty to look at and talk about during lunch.


The Edison in Disney Springs


Craft Cocktails – The Moscow Mule


Candied Bacon with Spicy Pickles


It looks like a super cool warehouse


The lighting stars


As does the art about light


This Tesla Shrimp Cobb was perfect


After 10:00 pm the Entertainment begins

Chocolate crusted key lime pie

In 2008 the family went to Key West, but we forgot to try the Key Lime Pie. So when we got back we started planning on our next adventure in WDW – the great Key Lime Pie adventure. In 2009 we visited twice that summer and during the trips we tasted every key lime pie on property. The Chocolate Crusted Key Lime from the Grand Floridian Cafe had a perfect score. So we continued to visit the cafe every trip for the pie. Along the way we shared it with many friends.

Then in 2015 a new chef showed up and promptly took it off the menu. We were stunned and abandoned the Grand Floridian Cafe.

So last week I wrote a letter to guest services to request a pie as a surprise for our group, and today it all worked out. The magic of Pie.



The Future of the World Showcase

With the recent announcements about a new Spaced Themed restaurant by Mission Space and the addition of an E-ticket Guardians of the Galaxy ride probably where Universe of Energy exists right now.  The Imagineer hinted that even more is coming to World Showcase in the form of additional attractions connecting the Disney movies to the Nation Pavilions. Using Frozen Ever After and the Arendelle expansion as a model, Disney plans on adding the Disneyland Paris Ratatouille ride to the vacant lot next to France.  They will be updating the China 360 movie, and they hinted at more. The full details and 9 minute video announcement here…D23 2017 Announcements

What additions make the most sense?

  1.  The Africa section is equivalent to three pavilions, so that would be easiest place to build and create something new. This might be too much of an overhaul.
  2. The easiest solution would be to add “Whole New World” Jasmine and Aladdin ride in the vacant lot between Japan and Morocco.  The little meet and greet area in the back of the Morocco stores doesn’t really accommodate the Jasmine/Aladdin demand.
  3. Then there is the opening between Germany and Italy.  From a movie standpoint – it would make sense to put a Pinocchio ride (Italy) or Tangled (Germany) and of course Snow White would be simple.
  4. My favorite option would be to add the Disneyland’s Alice and Wonderland to the United Kingdom area.

Let’s hope they keep expanding…


WDW in three photos 

There are places to go at WDW to avoid the madness and crowds.  Here are three of them. Being in Epcot at 11:00 ready to eat is one of the most relaxing parts of my trips. The ferries provide me endless entertainment. It’s a Small World reminds of what made WDW special. Innovation. 

Quiet dining in Epcot

Anthony driving the Friendship 3

Classic ride developed by Walt

A Day of Adventure at WDW

I never visited the Adventurer’s Club before it was closed down, but there are hints of it still floating around.  So, we went off in search of finding a little of that magic. We started at the Jambo House, and we stumbled on to this artifact in the Zawadi Marketplace.


A cast member at the desk suggested that we try the Jungle Navigation Co. Ltd at the Magic Kingdom.  The entire staff is made up of Jungle adventurers.  Off we went.  Along the way, we were sidetracked by the allure of the Tiki Birds.


They sang of mysteries in the Jungle and treasure that we should seek.


And warned us to be on the look out for danger…


Upon arriving at the Skipper Canteen, we knew immediately that we were in the right spot.  The servers talked in riddles and clues were embedded throughout the building…



We needed to stock up on food, so we ordered Cachapas (incredible) Shu Mai, Falefel, and duck confit noodle bowls.


And enjoyed Sangria in the Magic Kingdom…


From the clues at the Navigation Company and tips from the servers we knew we must set off to explore the major rivers of the world.  So we took a cruise.


During the journey, we spent most of the time in de Nile.  We avoided anacondas, gators, hippos, and waterfalls and finally found who we were looking for…


Trader Sam said, “I’ll give you a clue – if you want to experience the Adventurer’s Club you need to find the Grog Grotto. I will tell you know more.”


My band of intrepid explorers traveled by boat across the Seven Seas Lagoon to Polynesia and there we found excitement.

We found fire!


Glowing Hippopottamai-tais


And Captain Nemo and the Nautilus – A true adventurer.


Shortly after we ran out of money, we made our way back to Africa.  And after an arduous journey we stopped in to the Nomad Lounge.


The server immediately came up to us and winked.  He led us to a special table and said, “We have been waiting for you.”  He brought out a specially brewed beer for the Nomad Club.

He smiled, and said, “Kungaloosh!”


It’s the little things at WDW. 

These are a few of my favorite things at Walt Disney World. I wish I didn’t have to pay a $600+ cover charge to enjoy the food. But nonetheless, I pay – and I enjoy. 

An Anhinga at Disney Springs

Sorcerer Mickey at the Contemporary

Shooting pool on the pier

Black Cherry Mules at Geyser Point

The impotent Geyser at Wilderness Lodge

Flaming uh-oa at Trader Sam’s.

Animal Kingdom at Night. Stunning

Moroccan coffee at Spice Road Table

The Stars bust loose.

Duck Confit Sliders at Brown Derby Lounge

Tiers at Disney Animal Kingdom? A Capacity Analysis.

Based on the chart below, it looks like Disney Animal Kingdom after Pandora opens will still have less High Quality Ride Capacity than Hollywood Studios.  If Animal Kingdom sees a spike in their attendance and there will be a high demand for the new rides (Avatar: Flight of Passage & Na’vi River River Journey), then it seems that tiers are inevitable.

Magic Kingdom (No Tiers)

Epcot and Disney Hollywood Studios (Tiers)

Disney Animal Kingdom – After Pandora Opens (Tiers?)

Magic Kingdom Epcot Hollywood Studios Disney Animal Kingdom
Average Attendance 60000 40000 35000 35000
High Attendance 90000 60000 55000 60000
Total FP+ Capacity 249165 108017 112728 105475
High Quality FP+ Capacity 149500 44513 65922 62860
Average Quality FP+ Capacity 99665 63504 46806 42615
% of Quality FP+ Capacity 0.60 0.41 0.58 0.60
# FP+ per Average Attendance 4.15 2.70 3.22 3.01
# FP+ per High Attendance 2.77 1.80 2.05 1.76
# High Quality FP+ per High Attendance 1.66 0.74 1.20 1.05